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Crown CWL-309MJ-KMS-ST25 Joystick

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  • Product Description

    Important Note

    It is recommended that you add the .187 to 5-pin Conversion Harness to your order if are installing into a Japanese Fightstick or model that instead uses a 5-pin connector rather than .187" terminals. You can save $1.25 when you option bundle with this product. Partial assembly is required; install joystick lever through body, push actuator into bottom of lever stem, and push up against the internal spring to connect the e-clip.  Use needle nose-pliers to fasten the e-clip to the bottom of the joystick lever, pushing it into the lever's bottom groove.


    Crown has released several Korean style models within the 300 numbered series, such as the 303-FK, CWL-307-FJ, and now the 309MJ. In this iteration, Crown carefully reviewed feedback from diehard Tekken players, and eschewed select characteristics from earlier models to recreate the feel of a Fanta.  Much like the FK and FJ models, the 309MJ ensures installation in popular Japanese style Fightsticks such as the Mad Catz Street Fighter V Arcade FightStick TE2+ PS4/PS3/PC or Qanba Obsidian PS3/PS4/PC Fightstick.

    Low Profile Collar

    Comparison (photo by hibal.tistory.com)

    The 303-N main characteristic is longer travel distance, while the 307's larger actuator shortened dead zones. The 309MJ-JMS-ST25 is Crown's closest attempt to mimic the popular Myoungshin Fanta Joystick, narrowing the throw distance and a smaller, durable 16.5mm acetal (acetic anhydride + formaldehyde) plastic actuator.

    One of the most prominent feedback from players when trying the earlier model 303-FK and 307-FJ is accuracy issues that arose from lack of a collar.  Crown decided to incorporate a 6mm low-profile collar that offered the best of both worlds.  The short collar allows you to install the lever into Japanese style Fightsticks or cabinets (which often come with s-plate mount points), yet it maintains the accuracy that came with use of the collar.

    You can see comparison shots at Hibal.tistory.comnew-window-icon.png

    Silicone rubber grommetThe Difference in Silicone

    The ST variant uses a white silicone rubber tension system with a shore A rating of 25.  This is indeed lighter than the 55 shore A rating in the 307 series.  Tests conducted at Hibal, however, show that the silicone is slightly thicker in the 309.  Executing command input are easier, while returning to neutral is a bit tougher from the reduced tension.

    Still, the benefits of the rubber tension is a faster return to neutral, which is perfect for 3D based games such as Tekken in which wavedashing and consistent movement is required.  The CWL-309MJ-JMS-ST25 continues to share the same characteristics as other Fanta joysticks, with smooth, cornerless control for QCB, QCF (quarter-circle back/forward) HCB, HBC (half-circle back/forward) and full 360 motions.

    Korean Gersung GSM-V1623A3 Microswitches

    The CWL-309Helpme-K-KMS-ST35 currently uses a Gersung GSM-V1623A3 .187" Long Straight Hinge Lever Microswitch.  Like the 303 and 307 models, each microswitch can be removed from the joystick and replaced by another.  This opens up potential for customizing the switch sensitivity and performance.  The body of the CWL-309FJ-JMS-ST encloses the microswitches, offering a tighter form factor than the 303-FK. 

    CWL-309MJ-JMS-ST25 Similarities and Differences 

    The bottom construction of the CWL-309-HelpmeK-ST35 joystick lever matches that of the 303-FK though colored black.  The microswitches are positioned closer to the actuator than the 307, and are not embedded into the housing as the 307.

    Thanks to IplayWinner.com for a detailed overview of the Crown 309 models. new-window-icon.png Thanks to SRK's Agieze for further information regarding collar height and actuator plastic material. new-window-icon.png

     

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    1. This helps for a specific reason

      Since no one seems to explain specifically what makes Korean sticks good, I'll try to explain here. I had a lot of trouble with doing uf and df inputs with my japanese stick (a default hori rap4) and while it's a great japanese stick, the issue was in the design of the japanese sticks themselves. A japanese stick is made to offer little to no resistance to give you little push back when you move it, but a korean stick uses a rubber grommet to push against your hand whenever you move off center. This is a big deal, because, while you can tell your hand you want to move left, if you're an uncoordinated goofball like me, you might go up and left, or up and down. The resistance brought on by the rubber grommet tells you as soon as you start pushing up, giving you tactile feedback to tell you "you're moving up" or "you're moving down," which means you always know where your hand is pushing the stick. While a japanese stick can work just fine with enough practice, you have to know where the switches are on a japanese stick. A korean stick tells you where the switches are, and therefore takes way less practice. on Sep 18th 2018

    2. Amazing

      best for mishima player 1p side,better than seimitsu or sanwa on Aug 13th 2018

    3. Great stick for Tekken, but youll like it for other games too

      I had been meaning to try one of these korean style sticks for a while and i regret waiting so long to finally get one. It's not going to make you a movement god in Tekken overnight, but you will def see an improvement in your movement as the stick has more force when returning to neutral. on Jul 9th 2018

    4. godlike motion

      I use a jlf for SFV and a hayabusa for everything else. I have two RAPs (a 4 and an N) 1 stock that I use for most games and one with a 2lb spring and oversized actuator for TEKKEN. I've always wanted to try a Korean style as I've had limited experience actually playing matches with one and recently acquired this model as an extra when I was getting some other parts. I swapped the hayabusa with the heavy spring I used for TEKKEN with this and was literally blown away. As a previous review states I had to bend the switch a little to have it fit in the rap4 but have had 0 performance issues. It's made me get back into TEKKEN again because I had kinda plateaued I felt like but now it's like a whole new world. Less effort and more precise when it comes to back dash cancellation. I absolutely love it. on Apr 12th 2018

    5. Nice korea stick to bigin with

      More enjoy to play T7 with this stick.
      Solid quality , easy to install for Jap stick (Panthera)
      on Apr 10th 2018

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    IPW Fight Tech: Crown 309 Helpme, CWL-309MJ, & IST FLF-ST levers video review

    I bought and tried three Korean arcade stick levers! Two of them are from Crown (Samducksa) with help from popular Tekken player Helpme. The other lever is from IST, creators of the Makestick Pro arcade stick case, more in line with selling levers than making them. Whether you are veteran of Korean levers or looking to try it for the first time, check out the video and read the written portion found below too. Order links for these levers can also be found below! ------------- FULL REVIEW: http://iplaywinner.com/news/2016/11/1/review-crown-309-helpme-309mj-and-ist-flf-st-korean-arcade-s.html CROWN 309 HELPME LEVER: - http://bit.ly/2gm6K8S CROWN CWL-309MJ LEVER: - http://bit.ly/2gNs8Hq IST FLF-ST LEVER: - http://bit.ly/2fqgxOh .185 TO 5-PIN CONVERSION HARNESSES: - http://bit.ly/2gAxpz9 (Makestick) - http://bit.ly/2gxhWyA (Paradise Arcade Shop) - http://bit.ly/2gwIh3y (Focus Attack) .185 QUICK DISCONNECT WIRES: - http://bit.ly/2gNypTq (Paradise Arcade Shop) - http://bit.ly/2gNs0YL (Focus Attack) CROWN SILICONE GROMMETS: - http://bit.ly/2gm9V0r MAKESTICK WEBSTORE: - http://makestick.com/us/ ------------- IPW TESTS: CROWN CWJ-303FK KOREAN JOYSTICK LEVER: - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Og-ADN8yOYM NICEGAMETV'S VIDEO ON GEONDAE NET ARENA (철권7 FR 제 2회 매장대항전 매장 소개 - 건대 넷아레나): - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyhS6quJu9A ADDITIONAL CROWN 309 & 309MJ DEMONSTRATION VIDEOS: - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwsgK_uQcbg (309) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zaf0IUY_jLo (309) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxP6uvac58g (309MJ) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYMbDUnlFgk (309MJ) ------------- CREDITS: Carlo Dela Cruz/The Phantomnaut - Director, producer MUSIC: Rukunetsu - TOUCH AND GO T7 [2016] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M16-_x3j--I) *Original composition for Tekken 4 by Satoru Kosaki DOWNLOAD: https://soundcloud.com/rukunetsu/2016-touch-and-go-t7 -------------- web: http://www.iplaywinner.com twitter: http://www.twitter.com/iplaywinner facebook: http://www.facebook.com/iplaywinner
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